UK PARLIAMENT DEBATES ON BAROTSELAND

UK PARLIAMENT DEBATES ON BAROTSELAND


Rhodesia (31 Oct 1975)
Sir Ronald Bell: ..., and we got none. Indeed, I was involved in the negotiations for the independence of Zambia at the time of the break-up of the Federation, because I was professionally instructed on behalf of Barotseland. Dr. Kaunda and all those with him made it clear that if we sought to impose conditions which they did not like they would sweep them aside as soon as they obtained their independence....
Oral Answers to Questions — Commonwealth Affairs: Zambia (13 Dec 1966) See 3 other results from this debate
Mr John Biggs-Davison: asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what communication he has received from the President of Zambia about the modification of the Barotseland Agreement 1964.
Zambia (26 Jan 1967)
Sir Ronald Bell: Has any recent communication from the Government of Zambia to the Prime Minister referred to the unilateral abrogation by that country of the Barotseland Agreement of 1964? If so, what representations has the Prime Minister made in reply?
Aden (19 Jun 1967)
Mr John Lee: ...untouched. We know what is happenning there now. We tried to do the same thing in Uganda and there was the rift between Buganda and the rest of the country. We attempted it to some extent in Rhodesia, with Barotseland, but this attempt was squashed. We are doing exactly the same thing with the High Commission Territories in South Africa. We have given independence to undemocratic Lesotho...
Bill Presented: Barotseland Agreement (2 Dec 1968)
Barotseland Agreement
Nigeria (13 Mar 1969) See 1 other result from this debate
Mr Frederic Bennett: ...most enthusiastic adherent was Tanzania. Although Zambia has taken action, I am not sure whether, in the light of the last elections which showed what was happening in Zambia and how in particular Barotseland voted, she would be quite so enthusiastic to see the situation develop in which the right to fragment belonged to any particular tribe. The state of affairs in Africa is one for which...
Class Ii: Central African Federation (4 May 1953) See 11 other results from this debate
Mr James Griffiths: ...to oppose federation, but he has laid down conditions, as the hon. Member for Colchester (Mr. Alport) knows. The conditions are that the special place and special safeguards for his territory, Barotseland, shall be preserved and shall be enshrined in the new Federal Constitution. This is not in the scheme. There is no reference to a special place to preserve and safeguard the position of...
Orders of the Day — Rhodesia and Nyasaland Federation Bill: Clause 1. — (Power by Order in Council to Establish Federation, etc.) (24 Jun 1953) See 2 other results from this debate
Mr John Dugdale: ...are 55 Africans to one European whereas in Nyasaland there are 625 Africans to every European. Then again Nyasaland is a Protectorate made by a definite agreement on 15th May, 1891. In the case of Barotseland we were told that special considerations prevail; that it is a Protectorate and it would have different conditions from other Territories, and that there would be special...
Rhodesia and Nyasaland Federation (Constitution) (27 Jul 1953)
Mr James Griffiths: .... I urge one or two things upon the Secretary of State. First, I notice that in the Order in Council there are set out in very specific terms guarantees for the Paramount Chief and people of Barotseland. Those provisions are made in an Order in Council because one of the forebears of the Paramount Chief made an agreement with the British Sovereign and Government at the time. That agreement...
Oral Answers to Questions — Seychelles: Barotseland Protectorate (Hospitals) (2 May 1956)
Barotseland Protectorate (Hospitals)
Orders of the Day — Northern Rhodesia (African Development) (1 Jun 1956)
Lieut-Commander Peter Smithers: .... I have a teaching hospital in my constituency, the significance of which relates not to my constituency but to an enormously wider area. I do not see how we can hope to have any medical care in Barotseland or in some far off portion of the Luangwa Valley unless somewhere in the territory we have a really first-class centre to which it can look. It seems to me to have been a sensible...
Northern Rhodesia (Constitutional Changes) (27 Nov 1958) See 2 other results from this debate
Mr Charles Fletcher-Cooke: When the hon. Member for Cardiff, South-East (Mr. Callaghan) was speaking, my mind went back to a year ago when we set off together on a hot and dusty morning to Barotseland. I would remind him that in those days, whatever he may say about the inadequacy of these proposals, no African had any vote at all. Certainly so far as I know, no African was in any position even of quasi-power in the...
Smaller Colonial Territories (Future Status) (17 Apr 1959)
Mr Arthur Jones: ...members of the legislatures of the territories overseas come over here to talk with us about their problems. I remember how staggered I was when I was Secretary of State and found, when I was in Barotseland, that I was the first Minister ever to have visited that important Central African territory. We ought to keep our Ministers much more on the move. Important as their work is in...
Oral Answers to Questions — Northern Rhodesia: Mr. Chivunga (4 Jun 1959)
Mrs Barbara Castle: asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies why Mr. Chivunga, President of the Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers Trade Union in Northern Rhodesia, has been arrested and restricted to Barotseland.
Orders of the Day — Queen's Speech: Debate on the Address (2 Nov 1959)
Mr Patrick Wall: ...be gained by free partnership with Southern Rhodesia. If that does not happen, looking to the distant future, would it not be possible to repeat the same experiment as in Nyasaland and have perhaps Barotseland and Bembaland as predominantly African states, again within the Federation? That is in some degree a confession of failure of the idea of multi-racial partnership but I believe that...
Orders of the Day — Commonwealth Affairs (15 Mar 1960) See 1 other result from this debate
Mr James Callaghan: ...want to make it clear at the outset that, in moving this reduction, I have no desire to leave one of the Monckton Commissioners stranded beyond the flood waters in the summer palace of the Paramount Chief of Barotseland, although those of us who have experienced the hospitality of the Paramount Chief—including the Minister of Power, who is present, and my right hon....
Orders of the Day — Queen's Speech: Debate on the Address (3 Nov 1960)
Mr James MacColl: ...the stability of the experiment. We said that at that time. Unfortunately, it continued, and, of course, it had particularly bad effects in an area where there was sympathy with federation, Barotseland. One had only to meet the Paramount Chief and his advisers to feel a warmth of sympathy and a desire to keep up relations with us, but, at the same time, a fear, not so much of federation...
Northern Rhodesian Constitutional Conference (21 Feb 1961)
Mr Iain Macleod: ...to afford protection against unfair discrimination or other contravention of the rights guaranteed to individuals. The application of the provisions of the United Kingdom's Government's plan to Barotseland will be discussed with the Paramount Chief. Naturally, many matters still remain to be settled; for example, the delimitation of constituencies, the way in which national members are...
Oral Answers to Questions — Northern Rhodesia: Constitution (11 Apr 1961)
Mr Iain Macleod: That is equally true. There is a great deal going on in this field. Tomorrow morning I am starting talks with the Paramount Chief of Barotseland, who is now in this country. This is part of the pattern that we must get filled in.
Oral Answers to Questions — Local Government: Flood Damage, Hull (Financial Assistance) (18 Apr 1961)
Sir Harry Hylton-Foster: Order. We must move on from Hull to Barotseland.
Oral Answers to Questions — Barotseland (18 Apr 1961)
Oral Answers to Questions — Barotseland: Paramount Chief (Discussions) (18 Apr 1961) See 3 other results from this debate
Mr John Stonehouse: asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what are the results of his discussions with the Paramount Chief of Barotseland.
Oral Answers to Questions — Northern Rhodesia: Mr. Kenneth Kaunda (4 May 1961) See 1 other result from this debate
Mr John Dugdale: asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies for how long it is intended that Mr. Kenneth Kaunda is to be refused permission to enter Northern Province, Barotseland, and parts of Eastern Province.
Oral Answers to Questions — Northern Rhodesia: Constitution (6 Jun 1961)
Mr Hugh Fraser: ...on his discussions in Lusaka and is now, with my right hon. Friend's agreement, embarking on a further short round of consultations, with the political groups. He will also be seeing the Litunga of Barotseland this week.
African Affairs (19 Oct 1961) See 1 other result from this debate
Mr Arthur Jones: ...difficulties such as those recently experienced in Buganda, which has been standing out for its own traditional rights. In some cases we have had solemn treaty obligations, such as in the cases of Barotseland, Zanzibar and the East African coast. These pressing and urgent problems are being overcome today with very great skill by the Colonial Office. In the making of...
Commonwealth Immigrants Bill: Commonwealth Immigrants Bill (12 Dec 1961)
Mrs Eirene White: ..., where I contend that there is normally no Government in the full sense of the word. If we contend that there is a Government on whose behalf we are issuing these passports, what about Barotseland? Are we issuing passports on behalf of Barotseland? It does not seem to make much sense. Before we lightly dispose of these 14 million persons, we should have much greater clarification on...
Oral Answers to Questions — Central Africa: Federation (22 Feb 1962) See 2 other results from this debate
Mr George Thomson: asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies what consultations there have been with Nyasaland and Barotseland about their future constitutional arrangements in connection with the future of federation in Central Africa.
Northern Rhodesia Constitution (28 Feb 1962) See 1 other result from this debate
Mr George Thomson: Can the right hon. Gentleman say why he has not dropped the proposals so widely criticised for a separate seat for Asian and coloured voters in Northern Rhodesia? Can he also say whether Barotseland accepts the proposals which he put forward?
Central Africa (8 May 1962) See 3 other results from this debate
Mr Denis Healey: ...than Ministers have made it in this House that we absolutely reject the old Dominion Party plan recently revived by Sir Edgar Whitehead, the Prime Minister of Southern Rhodesia, for detaching Barotseland and the Copper Belt from Northern Rhodesia and fastening them on to Southern Rhodesia. This would be a betrayal of our formal juridical obligations in the territory and a betrayal of...
Central Africal (3 Dec 1962) See 1 other result from this debate
Mr Denis Healey: ...direct the right hon. Gentleman's attention to a matter of the greatest importance. We have been told a great deal in the past by right hon. and hon. Gentlemen opposite about the desire of the people of Barotseland for separation from the rest of Northern Rhodesia. This myth has formed the basis of innumerable plans for partitioning Northern Rhodesia when the Federation finally breaks up....
Orders of the Day — Supply: Central Africa (28 Feb 1963) See 1 other result from this debate
Mr R.A. Butler: ...in the territory, on which Dr. Banda made a reassuring speech on the occasion of his assuming the office of Prime Minister on the last Friday of my visit. In Northern Rhodesia I met the Litunga of Barotseland, who travelled from his capital of Mongu to meet me in Lusaka. There are two main features of the Barotse problem; first, the question of its internal administration, and, second,...
Orders of the Day — Supply: SUPPLY [26th February] (28 Feb 1963)
Mr Patrick Wall: ...external pressure of Mr. Koniange and his Pafmecsa, who have their eyes on the wealth of the Copperbelt for developing their schemes for Pan-African association. Then there are the pressures in Barotseland. Is it a fact that there are now pressures being exerted on Barotseland to obtain new elections of the Barotse National Council? Elections took place only last year. Why should they be...
Oral Answers to Questions — Northern Rhodesia: Barotseland (9 May 1963)
Barotseland
Rhodesia and Nyasaland Bill (11 Jul 1963) See 3 other results from this debate
Mr Patrick Wall: Before my right hon. Friend leaves the subject of Northern Rhodesia, will he say something about Barotseland?
Oral Answers to Questions — Northern Rhodesia: Constitution (Barotseland) (1 Aug 1963)
Constitution (Barotseland)
Zambia Independence Bill (7 Jul 1964) See 9 other results from this debate
Mr John Tilney: ...to many how short the connection between our two countries has been. Less than 75 years ago, in 1890, the High Commissioner in Cape Town received a letter from Lewanika, the Paramount Chief of Barotseland. It came by the hand of M. Francois Coillard, that great missionary priest. It asked for British protection. The High Commissioner acceded to the request. From that time for many years...
Zambia Independence Bill: Clause 8. — (Agreements Relating to Barotseland.) (10 Jul 1964)
Clause 8. — (Agreements Relating to Barotseland.)
Oral Answers to Questions — Aviation.: The Coronation. (3 Feb 1937)
Mr William Ormsby-Gore: Yes, Sir. His Highness the Kabaka of Buganda and Yeta III, the paramount chief of Barotseland, have been invited to the Coronation. The Kabaka accepted, but I am sorry to say that he has since been advised on medical grounds not to undertake the journey to England this year. I very much hope that the paramount chief will attend.
Oral Answers to Questions — Royal Navy.: Northern Rhodesia (Natives). (13 Jul 1938)
Mr. Creech Jones: asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he is aware that steps are to he taken in Northern Rhodesia to recruit in Barotseland 10,000 natives a year for work in the mines in the Union of South Africa; whether he is satisfied with the results in respect to health and mortality of the tropical natives so employed; and whether the Transvaal Chamber of Mines are...
Oral Answers to Questions — Northern Rhodesia (Native Labour). (30 Nov 1938)
Mr Malcolm Macdonald: ...the Governor, and provision for this purpose is being made in the 1939 Estimates. A labour officer of Northern Rhodesia in Southern Rhodesia has been appointed. The arrangements for recruiting from Barotseland on the lines proposed by Major Orde Browne have formed the subject of discussions between the Governor of Northern Rhodesia and representatives of the Witwatersrand Mines. These, and...
Oral Answers to Questions — African Colonies: Migratory Labour (Rest Compounds) (25 Oct 1944)
...Nyasaland have continued to give close attention to the improvement and extension of amenities for travelling natives. In Northern Rhodesia nine new rest camps were built in 1942 on the route from Barotseland to Livingstone, while camps have also been provided on the Great North Road for the use of motor transport passengers. The construction of further camps continued during 1943 and...
Oral Answers to Questions — Commonwealth Affairs: Zambia (13 Dec 1966)
Mr John Biggs-Davison: asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what communication he has received from the President of Zambia about the modification of the Barotseland Agreement 1964.
Oral Answers to Questions — Commonwealth Affairs: Zambia (13 Dec 1966)
Sir Knox Cunningham: asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what official representation the President of Zambia has made to him concerning the amendment of the Barotseland Agreement of 1964.
Oral Answers to Questions — Commonwealth Affairs: Zambia (13 Dec 1966)
Mrs Judith Hart: No, I could not agree with the hon. Gentleman. All is now perfectly calm in Barotseland. Since Zambia became independent, these matters have become essentially the internal affairs of a sovereign State.
Oral Answers to Questions — Commonwealth Affairs: Zambia (13 Dec 1966)
Sir Knox Cunningham: Did not President Kaunda undertake, on Zambia's becoming independent, to reconfirm the independence of Barotseland? Instead, has he not made it a local Government province of Zambia? And are these the people who talk about moral principles in Rhodesia?
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Mrs Judith Hart (Lanark)
There are clearly many views on the kind and nature of moral principles involved in these issues at present. However, on this particular matter, it is clear that once a country becomes independent these matters become issues for its own internal decision.
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Mr John Biggs-Davison (Chigwell)
On a point of order. In view of the cynically unsatisfactory nature—
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Dr Horace King (Southampton, Itchen)
Order. There is no need for the hon. Member to add words to the conventional phraseology.
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Mr John Biggs-Davison (Chigwell)
Further to that point of order. In view of the unsatisfactory nature of the Minister's reply, I beg to give notice that I shall seek to raise this matter on the Adjournment at the earliest possible opportunity.
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Barotseland Protectorate (Hospitals)
Oral Answers to Questions — Seychelles
House of Commons debates, 2 May 1956
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Sir Barnett Stross (Stoke-on-Trent Central)
asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies (1) what proposals the Government of Northern Rhodesia have to provide adequate hospital accommodation at Mongu in the Barotseland Protectorate;
(2) whether he will make a statement on the condition of the buildings and equipment of the Government hospital in Mongu in the Barotseland Protectorate.
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Mr John Hare (Sudbury and Woodbridge)
The provision and maintenance of hospitals in the Barotseland Protectorate is now the responsibility of the Federal Government.
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Sir Barnett Stross (Stoke-on-Trent Central)
Can the hon. Gentleman tell me whether it is possible for the territorial Government to spend money to give assistance to the Federal Government? Secondly, is he aware that many parts of this hospital are said to be in decay and that some of the buildings are falling down? Is there any way in which we can be of assistance?
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Mr John Hare (Sudbury and Woodbridge)
As I have explained to the hon. Gentleman, this matter is within the responsibility of the Federal Government and not of the Home Government. Therefore, it does not come within the purview of my Department.
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Mr Charles Hale (Oldham West)
Will the hon. Gentleman remember, in making further grants to purposes in Northern Rhodesia, to impose a condition that there is no colour bar and no segregation in any institution in respect of which United Kingdom funds are granted?
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Mr John Hare (Sudbury and Woodbridge)
That point does not arise out of the question.
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Mr Charles Hale (Oldham West)
No, but just remember.